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Are you required to pay Oz Tax if you've done Initial Entry then fly outside OZ to settle stuffs?

Birhen_ng_GuadalupeBirhen_ng_Guadalupe SydneyPosts: 120Member
edited February 2013 in Other Info Bout OZ
May stupid question po ako. Pasensya na kung natanong na. I'm planning my initial entry this month pero mga 2 weeks lang then balik muna ako SG since di pa ako ready for the final move (uuwi nanay ko from abroad, maglilipat bahay sa pinas etc). Ang alam ko ang mga Australians ay nagbabayad ng tax kahit hindi sila nagwowork sa Australia.

Does that mean, may tax responsibilities na rin pag nag activate ng visa ang mga PR kahit di pa siya nagwowork doon?

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  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot OsakaPosts: 4,336Member
    edited November 2014
    May stupid question po ako. Pasensya na kung natanong na. I'm planning my initial entry this month pero mga 2 weeks lang then balik muna ako SG since di pa ako ready for the final move (uuwi nanay ko from abroad, maglilipat bahay sa pinas etc). Ang alam ko ang mga Australians ay nagbabayad ng tax kahit hindi sila nagwowork sa Australia.

    Does that mean, may tax responsibilities na rin pag nag activate ng visa ang mga PR kahit di pa siya nagwowork doon?
    So what you are trying to ask is; will you be required to pay taxes for income abroad?

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  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 PerthPosts: 5,037Member, De-activated
    @Birhen_ng_Guadalupe - hindi nmn stupid question... okay nga eh..

    1. Yes australian residents are taxed for their income worldwide.
    2. Meron pong residency test na tinatawag. But the definition of a "resident" for tax purposes is different from immigration definition. Normally, if you live in AU for 6mos continuously or more than half of the financial year, you should file income tax..

    here is a flowchart to illustrate and "resident" definition from ATO:
    http://www.ato.gov.au/taxprofessionals/content.aspx?doc=/content/64144.htm
    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.aspx?doc=/content/64131.htm

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  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon CityPosts: 2,616Member, Moderator
    There is a thing called double taxation and Au and Ph follow this. It means that if your investments are taxed in your domicile country then it should not be taxed in your itr in Australia. How that exactly works is beyond me since I am not an accountant Hehe
  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot OsakaPosts: 4,336Member
    http://www.guidemesingapore.com/research-reports/australia/singapore-australia-dta

    If you understand this, paki-explain na rin... :) Don't know if this is updated though

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  • BigfootBigfoot BrisbanePosts: 91applymembership
    @Birhen_ng_Guadalupe - Ma'am tama po si lock, may residency test po and kahit na naginitial entry ka na sa Au kung hindi mo nameet ang residency requirement e hindi ka magiging taxable sa Au for income earned in Sg. Also, related sa post ni psychoboy, may tax treaty ang Au and SG wherein ang personal/professional services income (remuneration) is taxable only on the place where the service is rendered. I'm not sure kung kelangan pa itong ideclare as income subject to final tax sa Au tax filing. Baka may makapagcomment regarding this.

    Regarding Loki's comment, tama po na may double tax treaty ang Au and Phil and same with Sg ang income from remuneration is only taxable in the place where the service is rendered. But this is subject to some exceptions, meaning the remuneration income in the Phil can still be taxable in Au subject to some factors.

    I haven't tried filing an Au individual tax return pero I understand that Au tax residents are required to declare all income derived from within and outside of Au. If the Au tax resident suffered income tax from its income derived from outside of Au, then the tax resident shall be able to claim tax credit (tax offset) for the said taxes paid, meaning the total Au income tax payable may be reduced by claiming the tax credits for the taxes paid in foreign jurisdictions.

    Hope this helped in some way. :)

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  • IslanderndCityIslanderndCity AdelaidePosts: 2,272Member, Moderator
    @LokiJr so it means if may property for rent, funds & stocks investments ka sa Pinas, wala na pakialam si Au kahit Au PR o citizen ka?

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  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot OsakaPosts: 4,336Member
    @LokiJr so it means if may property for rent, funds & stocks investments ka sa Pinas, wala na pakialam si Au kahit Au PR o citizen ka?
    Bayad ka ng tax for these...

    In the first place, wala ka naman binabayaran for these types of income in the Philippines to begin with.

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    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
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  • IslanderndCityIslanderndCity AdelaidePosts: 2,272Member, Moderator
    @LokiJr so it means if may property for rent, funds & stocks investments ka sa Pinas, wala na pakialam si Au kahit Au PR o citizen ka?
    Bayad ka ng tax for these...

    In the first place, wala ka naman binabayaran for these types of income in the Philippines to begin with.
    so ibig sabihin i-declare ito diyan sa Au?

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  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot OsakaPosts: 4,336Member
    @LokiJr so it means if may property for rent, funds & stocks investments ka sa Pinas, wala na pakialam si Au kahit Au PR o citizen ka?
    Bayad ka ng tax for these...

    In the first place, wala ka naman binabayaran for these types of income in the Philippines to begin with.
    so ibig sabihin i-declare ito diyan sa Au?
    tomoh!! ideally you should declare it with the ATO...

    Primary Applicant: Wife
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    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!

  • IslanderndCityIslanderndCity AdelaidePosts: 2,272Member, Moderator
    @LokiJr so it means if may property for rent, funds & stocks investments ka sa Pinas, wala na pakialam si Au kahit Au PR o citizen ka?
    Bayad ka ng tax for these...

    In the first place, wala ka naman binabayaran for these types of income in the Philippines to begin with.
    so ibig sabihin i-declare ito diyan sa Au?
    tomoh!! ideally you should declare it with the ATO...
    ideally...
    thanks po

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  • gerarddsgerardds North RydePosts: 221Member
    although this is an old thread,
    Thanks so much for the information above at di ko na kailangan magcreate ng thread >:D<

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  • supertobleronesupertoblerone Posts: 434Member
    edited February 2015
    Mga Boss @TasBurrfoot @lock_code2004 @Birhen_ng_Guadalupe di ko parin gets to. Sensya tanong ko lang ulet, Mag IED ako this May 2015 and be there for at least 3 weeks to 1 month, and balik sa Singapore for 1 year only as my current employer promoted me to Senior position.

    Sa case na to po ba kelangan ko magbayad ng Tax even di ko pa maasikaso ang TFN pag dating ko sa May?

    Please advise po.

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  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 PerthPosts: 5,037Member, De-activated
    @supertoblerone you dont have to pay Au tax yet, you are not yet considered as Au resident for tax purposes..

    No need to apply for tfn until you are decided to say here permanently..

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  • supertobleronesupertoblerone Posts: 434Member
    @lock_code2004 boss thanks! Tumawag din ako sa ATO yesterday morning at same kayo ng sinabi. Thanks sa confirmation. :)

    One more question, ok lang ba na mag apply na ako sa TFN once I arrived there even di pa tax payer agad agad? Kasi bali total of maximum 3 weeks lang ang stay ko dyan sa Melbourne then after than have to be back in SG para settle lahat bago mag BIG move sa 2016.

    Thanks again!

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    11/07/14: Frontloaded Form 80
    12/08/14: CO Allocation - Team Brisbane- Requested additional docs and VISA GRANT on the same day
    05/02/15: EID Done!

    Thank you LORD!

  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 PerthPosts: 5,037Member, De-activated
    @supertoblerone pwde, if you have a postal address in au.. They will send the tfn via post.

    So kung wla kang address here, just do this pag magsettle kana dito..

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    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
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    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
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  • supertobleronesupertoblerone Posts: 434Member
    @lock_code2004 Well noted boss! Maraming salamat ulet!

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    04/11/14~04/19/14: Holiday in Sydney And Melbourne
    04/19/14: Decided to pursue Australian Dream
    05/17/14: IELTS GT Exam (IDP Singapore)
    05/23/14: Started to write my CDR
    05/30/14: IELTS passed but with no points
    06/19/14: Finished My CDR
    06/21/14: CTCéd my Docs
    06/22/14: Completed my CDR Requirements
    06/23/14: Sent My CDR docs via Fedex/DHL Singapore
    06/25/14: CDR Received By EA (1st Batch)
    06/26/14: Skilled Employment Record (For Additional Assessment Received by EA)
    06/26/14: AUD 870 was charged to my card at THE INSTITUTION OF ENG BA
    09/17/14: Applied NBI in the Philippines
    09/19/14: EA Assessment Positive Results
    09/23/14: Obtained NBI
    09/25/14: EA Letter Received
    09/26/14: EOI Lodged (Subclass 189)
    10/12/14: SG Time - Invited to lodge Skilled - Independent (Subclass 189)
    10/13/14: Lodged application - Visa Subclass 189
    10/13/14: AUD 3558.02 was charged to my card at Department of Immigrat SO
    10/14/14: Applied SG PCC (Release date: Nov 04)
    10/15/14: Started uploading docs
    11/01/14: Medicals Done (Point Medical Paragon SG)
    11/04/14: Obtained SG PCC (Uploaded Immediately). Completed and uploaded all required documents
    11/05/14: Medical has been submitted to DIBP
    11/07/14: Frontloaded Form 80
    12/08/14: CO Allocation - Team Brisbane- Requested additional docs and VISA GRANT on the same day
    05/02/15: EID Done!

    Thank you LORD!

  • Andoy31Andoy31 BrisbanePosts: 99Member
    edited February 2015
    tama ba na once you have TFN - required ka na to pay AU Taxes?
    patanong lang mga boss

    what if mag initial entry and kumuha ng TFN pero may work pa rin sa singapore - does this mean idedeclare na uing income? kahit may treaty against dual taxation si AU and SG?

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  • wizardofOzwizardofOz SydneyPosts: 1,214Member
    @Andoy31 as far as I know kahit may tax treaty... ang i-aaddress lang nun is yung double-taxation.. meaning ibabawas lang any tax na bayaran mo sa SG sa tax na due mo to AU.... since magkaiba sila ng percentage..

    But basically, you still have to pay tax to Oz... yan eh as far i know.

    Ito naman ang naappreciate ko sa Pinas.. hindi na tayo required magbayad ng tax sa PHL Govt sa mga earnings natin abroad...

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  • Andoy31Andoy31 BrisbanePosts: 99Member
    @Andoy31 as far as I know kahit may tax treaty... ang i-aaddress lang nun is yung double-taxation.. meaning ibabawas lang any tax na bayaran mo sa SG sa tax na due mo to AU.... since magkaiba sila ng percentage..

    But basically, you still have to pay tax to Oz... yan eh as far i know.

    Ito naman ang naappreciate ko sa Pinas.. hindi na tayo required magbayad ng tax sa PHL Govt sa mga earnings natin abroad...
    ahhh got it, getting a TFN is a one way road :P

    thanks

    Nominated Occupation - (261313)

    09 April 2013 - IELTS Schedule
    16 April 2013 - IELTS result - L8.5, R7.5,W7.5,S8.0; OBS=8
    18 Nov 2013 - ACS submission 261313 (software engineer)
    7 Feb 2014 - Skills Assessment Outcome: POSITIVE

    • Qualifications: Comparable to AQF Bachelor Degree
      9 Feb 2014 - Lodged EOI / v189 (65 points)
      10 Mar 2014 - skill select invitation received 189
      11 Mar 2014 - applied for v189
      15 Mar 2014 - CO Allocated - Brisbane GSM team 34
      25 Mar 2014 - CO requested for form 80
      25 Mar - 4 april 2014 - hospitalized :( - Contacted CO and moved deadline to May 16, 2014
      7 Apr 2014 - requested SG PCoC
      16 Apr 2014 - Medicals @SATA BEDOK
      17 Apr 2014 - fly to manila
      18 Apr 2014 - requested NBI Clearance
      20 Apr 2014 - uploaded NBI Clearance
      2 May 2014 - fly back to SG
      6 May 2014 - uploaded Form 80s and SG PCoC
      19 May 2014 - VISA GRANTED - IED -15 Apr 2015

    THANK YOU LORD!

    14 Feb 2015 - scheduled flight to Melbourne! :)

  • IslanderndCityIslanderndCity AdelaidePosts: 2,272Member, Moderator
    @Andoy31 as far as I know kahit may tax treaty... ang i-aaddress lang nun is yung double-taxation.. meaning ibabawas lang any tax na bayaran mo sa SG sa tax na due mo to AU.... since magkaiba sila ng percentage..

    But basically, you still have to pay tax to Oz... yan eh as far i know.

    Ito naman ang naappreciate ko sa Pinas.. hindi na tayo required magbayad ng tax sa PHL Govt sa mga earnings natin abroad...
    ahhh got it, getting a TFN is a one way road :P

    thanks
    can we put numbers for better understanding po? for example you're an Au PR, done sa initial entry na, then balik SG to work muna,..
    SG salary 4000 sgd
    SG tax 280 sgd
    how much tax you must pay to Au in that month?

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  • wizardofOzwizardofOz SydneyPosts: 1,214Member
    @Andoy31 as far as I know kahit may tax treaty... ang i-aaddress lang nun is yung double-taxation.. meaning ibabawas lang any tax na bayaran mo sa SG sa tax na due mo to AU.... since magkaiba sila ng percentage..

    But basically, you still have to pay tax to Oz... yan eh as far i know.

    Ito naman ang naappreciate ko sa Pinas.. hindi na tayo required magbayad ng tax sa PHL Govt sa mga earnings natin abroad...
    ahhh got it, getting a TFN is a one way road :P

    thanks
    can we put numbers for better understanding po? for example you're an Au PR, done sa initial entry na, then balik SG to work muna,..
    SG salary 4000 sgd
    SG tax 280 sgd
    how much tax you must pay to Au in that month?
    Bro, there are couple of factors to consider...

    Here's the sample calculator from ATO

    http://calculators.ato.gov.au/scripts/asp/simpletaxcalc/main.asp

    Nominated Occupation: Plant or Production Engineer (ANZSCO 233513)

    03/23/13: IELTS GT Exam (British Council)
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    makalipas ang isang taon....
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    07/09/14: EA started reviewing my CDR
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    09/16/14: Requested EA for a Duplicate Letter (Original Outcome Letter lost during mail delivery to PH)
    09/21/14: Duplicate Assessment Letter received (Finally!!)
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    09/23/14: Obtained Overseas PCC
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    10/12/14: Lodged application - Visa Subclass 189
    10/12/14: Uploaded docs
    10/20/14: Medicals Done
    12/06/14: Direct Grant! To GOD Be the Glory!
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  • Andoy31Andoy31 BrisbanePosts: 99Member
    @Andoy31 as far as I know kahit may tax treaty... ang i-aaddress lang nun is yung double-taxation.. meaning ibabawas lang any tax na bayaran mo sa SG sa tax na due mo to AU.... since magkaiba sila ng percentage..

    But basically, you still have to pay tax to Oz... yan eh as far i know.

    Ito naman ang naappreciate ko sa Pinas.. hindi na tayo required magbayad ng tax sa PHL Govt sa mga earnings natin abroad...
    ahhh got it, getting a TFN is a one way road :P

    thanks
    can we put numbers for better understanding po? for example you're an Au PR, done sa initial entry na, then balik SG to work muna,..
    SG salary 4000 sgd
    SG tax 280 sgd
    how much tax you must pay to Au in that month?
    actually when i was reading the ATO site, I'm getting confused lalo :P
    will give a call to ATO sometime today and will let you guys know.

    Nominated Occupation - (261313)

    09 April 2013 - IELTS Schedule
    16 April 2013 - IELTS result - L8.5, R7.5,W7.5,S8.0; OBS=8
    18 Nov 2013 - ACS submission 261313 (software engineer)
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      15 Mar 2014 - CO Allocated - Brisbane GSM team 34
      25 Mar 2014 - CO requested for form 80
      25 Mar - 4 april 2014 - hospitalized :( - Contacted CO and moved deadline to May 16, 2014
      7 Apr 2014 - requested SG PCoC
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      17 Apr 2014 - fly to manila
      18 Apr 2014 - requested NBI Clearance
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      2 May 2014 - fly back to SG
      6 May 2014 - uploaded Form 80s and SG PCoC
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    THANK YOU LORD!

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  • Andoy31Andoy31 BrisbanePosts: 99Member
    edited February 2015
    @Andoy31 as far as I know kahit may tax treaty... ang i-aaddress lang nun is yung double-taxation.. meaning ibabawas lang any tax na bayaran mo sa SG sa tax na due mo to AU.... since magkaiba sila ng percentage..

    But basically, you still have to pay tax to Oz... yan eh as far i know.

    Ito naman ang naappreciate ko sa Pinas.. hindi na tayo required magbayad ng tax sa PHL Govt sa mga earnings natin abroad...
    ahhh got it, getting a TFN is a one way road :P

    thanks
    can we put numbers for better understanding po? for example you're an Au PR, done sa initial entry na, then balik SG to work muna,..
    SG salary 4000 sgd
    SG tax 280 sgd
    how much tax you must pay to Au in that month?
    actually when i was reading the ATO site, I'm getting confused lalo :P
    will give a call to ATO sometime today and will let you guys know.
    opps sorry - for your case sguro as long as di ka pa kumuha ng TFN - ok lang.
    also if may TFN ka na, ithink uing difference ng tax ng australia and SG and kailangan mong bayaran sa AU --

    anyway, i did called ATO up and the guy said na it depends whether you're an australian tax resident
    https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Income-and-deductions/How-much-income-tax-you-pay/Are-you-an-Australian-resident-for-tax-purposes-/

    and then
    https://expertsystems.ato.gov.au/scripts/CA/Web/Default.aspx?PID=68&anchor=DoINeedToLodge#DoINeedToLodge


    Nominated Occupation - (261313)

    09 April 2013 - IELTS Schedule
    16 April 2013 - IELTS result - L8.5, R7.5,W7.5,S8.0; OBS=8
    18 Nov 2013 - ACS submission 261313 (software engineer)
    7 Feb 2014 - Skills Assessment Outcome: POSITIVE

    • Qualifications: Comparable to AQF Bachelor Degree
      9 Feb 2014 - Lodged EOI / v189 (65 points)
      10 Mar 2014 - skill select invitation received 189
      11 Mar 2014 - applied for v189
      15 Mar 2014 - CO Allocated - Brisbane GSM team 34
      25 Mar 2014 - CO requested for form 80
      25 Mar - 4 april 2014 - hospitalized :( - Contacted CO and moved deadline to May 16, 2014
      7 Apr 2014 - requested SG PCoC
      16 Apr 2014 - Medicals @SATA BEDOK
      17 Apr 2014 - fly to manila
      18 Apr 2014 - requested NBI Clearance
      20 Apr 2014 - uploaded NBI Clearance
      2 May 2014 - fly back to SG
      6 May 2014 - uploaded Form 80s and SG PCoC
      19 May 2014 - VISA GRANTED - IED -15 Apr 2015

    THANK YOU LORD!

    14 Feb 2015 - scheduled flight to Melbourne! :)

  • IslanderndCityIslanderndCity AdelaidePosts: 2,272Member, Moderator
    @Andoy31 thanks. no TFN pa po ako. and balak sana kukuha this March during sa initial entry :-*

    Assessed Occupation: Industrial Engineer (IE 233511)
    Achieved Goal: Australia PR (Permanent Resident). Thanks God!

    ...sharpening my core gifts now...
    ...working on new, better goals...

    Bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ~Luke 6:28~

  • wizardofOzwizardofOz SydneyPosts: 1,214Member
    Question lang with regards to Interest earned from Savings sa AU Bank

    Assuming I have “not permanently” moved to OZ (i.e. I am still offshore and not moved permanently to Oz)... but I already have money in the bank (e.g. NAB Migrant Account) earning interest…

    Paano kaya ang Tax nun?

    Nominated Occupation: Plant or Production Engineer (ANZSCO 233513)

    03/23/13: IELTS GT Exam (British Council)
    04/05/13: IELTS Results L:7.0/R:7.5/W:7.5/S:8.5 OBS: 7.5
    makalipas ang isang taon....
    04/20/14: CDR Application sent to EA
    07/09/14: EA started reviewing my CDR
    08/08/14: EA Assessment Positive Results (Thank you LORD!!!)
    09/16/14: Requested EA for a Duplicate Letter (Original Outcome Letter lost during mail delivery to PH)
    09/21/14: Duplicate Assessment Letter received (Finally!!)
    09/21/14: EOI Lodged (70 pts)
    09/22/14: Invited to lodge Skilled - Independent (Subclass 189) visa
    09/23/14: Obtained Overseas PCC
    09/29/14: Obtained NBI Clearance
    10/12/14: Lodged application - Visa Subclass 189
    10/12/14: Uploaded docs
    10/20/14: Medicals Done
    12/06/14: Direct Grant! To GOD Be the Glory!
    12/13/14: Completed Initial Entry - Sydney

  • gotstampedgotstamped MelbournePosts: 53Member
    hi @wizardofOz , may withholding tax na 10% on the interest that you earn.
    ganito sa case ko.
    on their records, i'm a non-resident living outside aus. at saka wala pa ako TFN.

    feb 14, 2014 IELTS results
    feb 25, 2014 ACS results
    mar 13, 2014 lodged visa 189
    may 19, 2014 visa granted
    Thank You, Lord!

  • Andoy31Andoy31 BrisbanePosts: 99Member
    Question lang with regards to Interest earned from Savings sa AU Bank

    Assuming I have “not permanently” moved to OZ (i.e. I am still offshore and not moved permanently to Oz)... but I already have money in the bank (e.g. NAB Migrant Account) earning interest…

    Paano kaya ang Tax nun?
    Based sa mga nabasa ko --Assuming na wala pang tfn dun sa NAB account mo, then you'll still be taxed- the tax rate is the highest rate

    Nominated Occupation - (261313)

    09 April 2013 - IELTS Schedule
    16 April 2013 - IELTS result - L8.5, R7.5,W7.5,S8.0; OBS=8
    18 Nov 2013 - ACS submission 261313 (software engineer)
    7 Feb 2014 - Skills Assessment Outcome: POSITIVE

    • Qualifications: Comparable to AQF Bachelor Degree
      9 Feb 2014 - Lodged EOI / v189 (65 points)
      10 Mar 2014 - skill select invitation received 189
      11 Mar 2014 - applied for v189
      15 Mar 2014 - CO Allocated - Brisbane GSM team 34
      25 Mar 2014 - CO requested for form 80
      25 Mar - 4 april 2014 - hospitalized :( - Contacted CO and moved deadline to May 16, 2014
      7 Apr 2014 - requested SG PCoC
      16 Apr 2014 - Medicals @SATA BEDOK
      17 Apr 2014 - fly to manila
      18 Apr 2014 - requested NBI Clearance
      20 Apr 2014 - uploaded NBI Clearance
      2 May 2014 - fly back to SG
      6 May 2014 - uploaded Form 80s and SG PCoC
      19 May 2014 - VISA GRANTED - IED -15 Apr 2015

    THANK YOU LORD!

    14 Feb 2015 - scheduled flight to Melbourne! :)

  • IslanderndCityIslanderndCity AdelaidePosts: 2,272Member, Moderator
    Question lang with regards to Interest earned from Savings sa AU Bank

    Assuming I have “not permanently” moved to OZ (i.e. I am still offshore and not moved permanently to Oz)... but I already have money in the bank (e.g. NAB Migrant Account) earning interest…

    Paano kaya ang Tax nun?
    Based sa mga nabasa ko --Assuming na wala pang tfn dun sa NAB account mo, then you'll still be taxed- the tax rate is the highest rate
    Are you suggesting not to get TFN if wala ka pa plan to stay in Au permanently?

    Assessed Occupation: Industrial Engineer (IE 233511)
    Achieved Goal: Australia PR (Permanent Resident). Thanks God!

    ...sharpening my core gifts now...
    ...working on new, better goals...

    Bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ~Luke 6:28~

  • Andoy31Andoy31 BrisbanePosts: 99Member
    Question lang with regards to Interest earned from Savings sa AU Bank

    Assuming I have “not permanently” moved to OZ (i.e. I am still offshore and not moved permanently to Oz)... but I already have money in the bank (e.g. NAB Migrant Account) earning interest…

    Paano kaya ang Tax nun?
    Based sa mga nabasa ko --Assuming na wala pang tfn dun sa NAB account mo, then you'll still be taxed- the tax rate is the highest rate
    Are you suggesting not to get TFN if wala ka pa plan to stay in Au permanently?
    Yap.. Kse mga @least 2-3 weeks daw ang delivery ng tfn sa mailbox-- i jut signed up for one and 28 days ang sabi dun sa website confirmation and ipapadala via mail

    Nominated Occupation - (261313)

    09 April 2013 - IELTS Schedule
    16 April 2013 - IELTS result - L8.5, R7.5,W7.5,S8.0; OBS=8
    18 Nov 2013 - ACS submission 261313 (software engineer)
    7 Feb 2014 - Skills Assessment Outcome: POSITIVE

    • Qualifications: Comparable to AQF Bachelor Degree
      9 Feb 2014 - Lodged EOI / v189 (65 points)
      10 Mar 2014 - skill select invitation received 189
      11 Mar 2014 - applied for v189
      15 Mar 2014 - CO Allocated - Brisbane GSM team 34
      25 Mar 2014 - CO requested for form 80
      25 Mar - 4 april 2014 - hospitalized :( - Contacted CO and moved deadline to May 16, 2014
      7 Apr 2014 - requested SG PCoC
      16 Apr 2014 - Medicals @SATA BEDOK
      17 Apr 2014 - fly to manila
      18 Apr 2014 - requested NBI Clearance
      20 Apr 2014 - uploaded NBI Clearance
      2 May 2014 - fly back to SG
      6 May 2014 - uploaded Form 80s and SG PCoC
      19 May 2014 - VISA GRANTED - IED -15 Apr 2015

    THANK YOU LORD!

    14 Feb 2015 - scheduled flight to Melbourne! :)

  • kangarookoalakangarookoala CanberraPosts: 17Member
    edited February 2015
    If you are not in au kahit pr na and may tfn na even if working in sg or ph... You don't have to pay tax. Double taxation only works if you live in au and still receive income from abroad.
    Let say may property ka in pnas and you receive rent pero yung pera naman stays in pinas. You don't need to declare that kasi the money will not be reflected in au. You are also already taxed sa pinas. There is no way for au to check ur income in your home country if d naman pumapasok sa au bank account mu.
    BUT if it is deposited in au and you live in au then you will get taxed. Once the money gets into au..then double taxation will apply kasi part of your income na sya. Kaya double taxation kasi nag bayad ka ng tax sa pinas..pag dating sa au ng pera mu may tax ulit.
    Money (baon) you bring in from sg/ pinas as a new migrant is not taxed kasi savings yan and not income anymore.
    Like si hubby, he was in au for about half a year but he was not working. He was doing a course. He has a tfn and we asked the accountant if he needs to file for tax. The accountant said no kasi he is not working even though he did live here in au no need to pay tax. Same principle will go for unemployed and students. They don't pay income tax if they have no income in au.
    Now, si hubby had to go home kasi he has work back home. during tax time i asked the accountant does he need to file for tax. Accountant said, no need kasi he has not been in au for more than a couple of weeks (holiday) for the tax year. Si hubby is p.r. Of au but hindi sya tax resident kasi he does not live in au.



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