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Tipid Tips in Australia

TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot OsakaPosts: 4,336Member
edited February 2013 in Other Info Bout OZ
Okey guys...

Begin sharing, looking forward to having a famous thread here! :)

Primary Applicant: Wife
Accountant (General): 221111

04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
03 Jun 2013 - started work
12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!

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  • itchanitchan PhoenixPosts: 213Member
    for some reason, mas mura sa US ang UGG boots kesa australia ahahahah!

    27.08.2011 - Submitted ACS Assessment via Fedex. Nominated Occupation : Systems Analyst (261112)
    10.10.2011 - ACS assessment received (PIM3 / Group A)
    17.11.2011 - IELTS General Training Exam (BC) Take 1
    30.11.2011 - IELTS General Training Exam (BC) Take 1 Result Received L- 9, R-9, W-7.5, S-8, OB-8.5
    04.12.2011 - Lodged 175(Online)
    17.04.2012 - Submitted request for FBI clearance (Me)
    02.05.2012 - Application being processed further
    29.05.2012 - Followed up CO Allocation
    01.06.2012 - CO Allocated, requesting for PCC and Meds
    02.06.2012 - Received FBI clearance. My middle name is misspelled (toink!)
    13.06.2012 - Submitted form 1022 and supporting documents to add spouse as dependent.
    15.06.2012 - Submit request for FBI clearance (Me and Spouse). 8-week wait time begins
    22.06.2012 - Uploaded NBI clearance
    22.06.2012 - Medicals @ SLEC (Wifey and Me)
    28.06.2012 - 28th DAY MILESTONE
    16.07.2012 - All Medicals Finalized
    26.07.2012 - Uploaded FBI clearance
    02.08.2012 - APRUB!!

    Freedom aint cheap mate! (lol)

  • PLACPLAC MandaluyongPosts: 49Member
    hehe maybe because in the U.S. its not fashionable to wear UGGs. :) thanks for the input... you in Oz already?
  • BryannBryann SydneyPosts: 854Member
    Hmmm.. ano ba.. wear seatbelts? Haha. Follow traffic signs especially if tumatawid? From what I remember, stricly followed yun right of way kasi dito.. baka pag tumawid ka ng go, masagasaan ka.. deds. Sorry morbid. Haha survival tips naman yun thread diba so hindi OT? :D :D

    Occupation: ICT Software Engineer (ANZSCO 261313)
    Dec 13 2011 - ACS: Suitable (AQF Diploma)
    Feb 03 2012 - IELTS #1 Failed (W-6.5)
    Mar 02 2012 - IELTS #2 Passed
    Apr 21 2012 - 175 Visa Lodged Online
    May 29 2012 - CO Assigned
    Jun 25 2012 - Visa Grant (IED: Dec 14 2012)
    Aug 19 2012 - Arrived in Sydney
    Sept 10 2012 - Start @ 1st Job (Web Developer)

  • diwatadiwata BrisbanePosts: 52Member
    in general, mas mura sa coles supermarket kesa sa woolworths.

    Occupation: ICT Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO 261311)
    Dec 2 2011 - ACS assessment: Suitable (AQF Advance Diploma with a Major in Computing)
    Jan 21 2012 - IELTS Exam (IDP)
    Feb 03 2012 - IELTS Results (L-8.5 R-7.5 S-7 W-7)
    Mar 13 2012 - Visa 175 lodged
    May 29 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 1 2012 - Evidence of Payslips and ITR sent via email
    June 1 2012 - Application to AU Police Clearance sent via post
    June 3 2012 - Application for SG Police Clearance sent via post
    June 3 2012 - Application for USA Police Clearance sent via post
    June 7 2012 - Family Medical
    June 8 2012 - Application for MY Police Clearance sent via post
    June 8 2012 - NBI Clearance Received
    June 14 2012 - Health Requirements Finalised
    July 12 2012 - FBI Clearance Received
    Aug 3 2012 - AFP Clearance Received
    Oct 9 2012 - MY Police Clearance Received
    Oct 9 2012 - Pre Grant Notification Received
    Jan 14 2013 - IED

  • BryannBryann SydneyPosts: 854Member
    @diwata
    That's good to know. :D Pero dati kasi nun andun pa ako nakatira madalas ako sa woolies kasi yun ang malapit sa amin.

    Occupation: ICT Software Engineer (ANZSCO 261313)
    Dec 13 2011 - ACS: Suitable (AQF Diploma)
    Feb 03 2012 - IELTS #1 Failed (W-6.5)
    Mar 02 2012 - IELTS #2 Passed
    Apr 21 2012 - 175 Visa Lodged Online
    May 29 2012 - CO Assigned
    Jun 25 2012 - Visa Grant (IED: Dec 14 2012)
    Aug 19 2012 - Arrived in Sydney
    Sept 10 2012 - Start @ 1st Job (Web Developer)

  • JClemJClem MelbournePosts: 528Member
    Kanina ka pa morbid @Bryann! 8-}
    Hmmm.. ano ba.. wear seatbelts? Haha. Follow traffic signs especially if tumatawid? From what I remember, stricly followed yun right of way kasi dito.. baka pag tumawid ka ng go, masagasaan ka.. deds. Sorry morbid. Haha survival tips naman yun thread diba so hindi OT? :D :D

    Nominated Occupation: Software Engineer (261313) - Husband is the primary applicant.

    10.21.2012 - Arrived in Melbourne. This is the day that the Lord has made. :)
    03.26.2012 - Visa granted. God is good, all the time! All the time, God is good! :)
    03.23.2012 - PCC submitted and medicals finalized
    03.02.2012 - Application being processed further / CO assigned
    06.26.2011 - Lodged Visa 175 application

  • itchanitchan PhoenixPosts: 213Member
    hehe maybe because in the U.S. its not fashionable to wear UGGs. :) thanks for the input... you in Oz already?
    Not yet... Pero regarding UGG boots, sobrang uso sya sa US lalo na kung winter... nagtataka nga ako e, bat may winter boots from AU hahahaha

    27.08.2011 - Submitted ACS Assessment via Fedex. Nominated Occupation : Systems Analyst (261112)
    10.10.2011 - ACS assessment received (PIM3 / Group A)
    17.11.2011 - IELTS General Training Exam (BC) Take 1
    30.11.2011 - IELTS General Training Exam (BC) Take 1 Result Received L- 9, R-9, W-7.5, S-8, OB-8.5
    04.12.2011 - Lodged 175(Online)
    17.04.2012 - Submitted request for FBI clearance (Me)
    02.05.2012 - Application being processed further
    29.05.2012 - Followed up CO Allocation
    01.06.2012 - CO Allocated, requesting for PCC and Meds
    02.06.2012 - Received FBI clearance. My middle name is misspelled (toink!)
    13.06.2012 - Submitted form 1022 and supporting documents to add spouse as dependent.
    15.06.2012 - Submit request for FBI clearance (Me and Spouse). 8-week wait time begins
    22.06.2012 - Uploaded NBI clearance
    22.06.2012 - Medicals @ SLEC (Wifey and Me)
    28.06.2012 - 28th DAY MILESTONE
    16.07.2012 - All Medicals Finalized
    26.07.2012 - Uploaded FBI clearance
    02.08.2012 - APRUB!!

    Freedom aint cheap mate! (lol)

  • tootzkietootzkie SydneyPosts: 200Member
    magandang topic to, any input guys?
  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon CityPosts: 2,616Member, Moderator
    edited March 2012
    Question po...mas praktikal po ba na bumili ng winter clothing dito sa Pinas (i.e. ukay ukay) kesa bumili mismo sa Australia (i.e. during summer season)? May kabigatan din kasi yung mga ganitong damit baka hindi naman kamahalan sa OZ hehe
  • BryannBryann SydneyPosts: 854Member
    Abang lang po garage sales sa Oz, pwede na.

    Occupation: ICT Software Engineer (ANZSCO 261313)
    Dec 13 2011 - ACS: Suitable (AQF Diploma)
    Feb 03 2012 - IELTS #1 Failed (W-6.5)
    Mar 02 2012 - IELTS #2 Passed
    Apr 21 2012 - 175 Visa Lodged Online
    May 29 2012 - CO Assigned
    Jun 25 2012 - Visa Grant (IED: Dec 14 2012)
    Aug 19 2012 - Arrived in Sydney
    Sept 10 2012 - Start @ 1st Job (Web Developer)

  • k_mavsk_mavs MelbournePosts: 712Member
    OO nga sanay naman tayong mga pinoy sa segunda mano. :D

    “We can make our own plans, but the LORD gives the right answer.”

  • nononono EdisonPosts: 35Member
    Dapat siguro talagang mag tipid pag nasa AU na. Nakakalungkot habang binabasa ko mga comments dito (http://www.expatforum.com/articles/cost-of-living/cost-of-living-in-australia) html halos walang positive comment.
  • tamarind26tamarind26 SingaporePosts: 49Member
    edited March 2012
    Thanks for sharing @nono.

    Cost of living depends on one's lifestyle naman. Kahit siguro gaano kalaki ang income if maluho, wala pa ring maiipon. Masipag naman tayong mga Pinoy and madiskarte kaya I'm sure we can survive anywhere.

    It's human nature to be scared of the uncertain pero let's not give up hope. One couple from Sydney told me that they both earn an annual income of 40k/each and yet they live comfortably and can afford yearly Philippine vacations.
  • stolich18stolich18 SydneyPosts: 993Member
    @nono di ko mabasa yung article kase web page has expired daw. :-(

    261313 (Software Engineer)

    Feb.15.2012 - started working on ACS requirements
    Mar.02.2012 - submitted online ACS application and sent documents to ACS via Fedex
    Mar.05.2012 - ACS acknowledged actual documents
    Mar.21.2012 - ACS finalised assessment: Suitable
    Mar.31.2012 - IELTS exam with BC
    Apr.13.2012 - IELTS Results (L:8.5 R:7 W: 7 S: 8 OB: 7.5) Thank you LORD!
    Apr.14.2012 - Lodged 175 Online Application
    Apr.20.2012 - Completed Online Attachments
    May.24.2012 - "Application being processed further"
    May.29.2012 - CO Assigned :-)
    Jun.07.2012 - Uploaded NBI Clearance
    Jun.13.2012 - Medical/Health Requirements Finalised
    Jun.14.2012 - VISA GRANT! Thank you, LORD! :-)
    Jun.07.2013 - Initial Entry Date Deadline
    Apr.28.2013 - Initial Entry (Sydney)
    Jun.28.2013 - Verbal Job Offer (Melbourne)
    Jul.08.2013 - First day of Work and first day of child care for my son (Melbourne)
    Aug.21.2013 - First day of Work in Sydney

    "Great is the LORD and most worthy of praise; his greatness no one can fathom." Psalm 145:3

  • tamarind26tamarind26 SingaporePosts: 49Member
    @stolich, dagdagan mo lang ng .html yung link para lumabas yung article.
  • genkigenki BrisbanePosts: 1Member
    Switch your water heater to night rate if possible. Shop at Aldi's. Try to get a place near your workplace so you can save on petrol. Mag research muna at magbasa bago pumirma sa kung ano mang kontrata tulad ng phone, internet etc. Iwasan ang kung ano mang mga utang tulad ng credit card etc.
  • ghypezghypez MandaluyongPosts: 58Member
    1. Magluto ka. Yung pagkain mo ng dinner, un na din ang lunch mo the day after. Bili ka ng mga microwaveable na baunan( tupperware o kahit ano basta matibay).
    2. Magbaon ka din ng sarili mong tubig. Mahal ang au water.
    3. Bili ka ng Travel 10 or ung unli 1 week na pang transpo. With that, alamin mo kung ilang sections ang travel ng bus mo. Mybus-1, mybus-2 and mybus- 3. Yan ang alam ko sa travel ten.
    4. Ung mga brochures sa woolies, coles o aldi, kunin mo. baka may makita kang kelangan mo dun. Relatively mura ung mga nandun.
    5. Mejo may kamahalan ang pinoy shops/market (sorry) compared sa ibang asian shops. hehe. parang sa specification lang, Pinoy Item or approved equivalent. Hanap ka ng mejo katulad ng iyong pinoy item. May mga mas mura dyan.
  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot OsakaPosts: 4,336Member
    Switch your water heater to night rate if possible. Shop at Aldi's. Try to get a place near your workplace so you can save on petrol. Mag research muna at magbasa bago pumirma sa kung ano mang kontrata tulad ng phone, internet etc. Iwasan ang kung ano mang mga utang tulad ng credit card etc.
    @genki - I would like to comment lang on your statement above re: Iwasan ang kung ano mang mga utang tulad ng credit card etc.

    Di naman po cguro masama ang credit card IF you know how to control... I have mentioned this in the other thread that I have always been an advocate of charge everything to your credit card, the key here is to know your limits and pay on time.

    Having practiced this for the past 4 years here in Singapore, I was able to save up on points and converted this into airlines. So ayun nakalibre ako at si wifey ng trips to Hong Kong and pauwi sa Pinas. :D

    Apart from paying on time, I just have one active credit card during my stay here in Singapore. So ayun, I make it work for me... :)

    By the way, this is a very nice thread, kudos to the TS @PLAC :)

    Primary Applicant: Wife
    Accountant (General): 221111

    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!

  • tita_vechtita_vech MandaluyongPosts: 79Member
    Just like @psychoboy, na mention ko rin ang cc, Qantas Frequent Flyer / Woolies Everyday Rewards sa kabilang thread.

    Tipid Tips: Pag on special na ang essentials, bumili na kahit hindi pa need straightaway. Things like laundry detergent, shampoo, toothpaste, rice, mga bagay na for sure you will need in the coming weeks. Malaki matitipid lalo na kung medyo branded yung type nyo.

    Kung may space, ok din magtamin. Kahit kamote or kangkong lang if you have space. Or herbs na nasa paso, mas fresh mas masarap.

    Sa amin din mas mura ang Woolies kaysa sa Coles, depende yan sa lugar. Actually, lumabas sa study few years ago na hindi standard ang pricing nang Woolies/Coles branches kahit sa magkakalapit na suburbs. Minsan daw mas mura pa ang basket of goods doon sa mas mayaman na suburbs, so compare nyo na lang.
  • aldousnowaldousnow SydneyPosts: 494Member
    Bumili ng damit kapag tapos na yung season. Halimbawa ngayon spring season so lahat ng pang winter na damit e bagsak presyo.
    Ang sure ko lang e mas mura ang Aldis kesa sa Wollies and Coles. Pero mas kaunti ang variety ng item kesa sa 2 major grocery stores.

    Skilled – Family Sponsored (Migrant) Visa (Subclass 176)
    Nominated Occupation : Developer Programmer (261312)
    02/28/2011 - ACS Finalized the Case (261312, PIM3, Group A)
    03/07/2011 - IELTS Result Received L- 6.5, R-7.0, W-6.0, S-7.0, Overall Band Score-6.5 (BC)
    03/13/2011 - Lodged Visa Application (Online)
    11/09/2011 - CO Allocation
    12/02/2011 - Medicals Finalised
    12/02/2011 - FINISH LINE!! (Visa Grant)
    03/23/2012 - My first day @Melbourne
    04/14/2012 - Started looking for a .Net Developer job
    06/04/2012 - And finally got one! :)

  • aldousnowaldousnow SydneyPosts: 494Member
    Bumili ng damit kapag tapos na yung season. Halimbawa ngayon spring season so lahat ng pang winter na damit e bagsak presyo.
    Ang sure ko lang e mas mura ang Aldis kesa sa Wollies and Coles. Pero mas kaunti ang variety ng item kesa sa 2 major grocery stores.

    Skilled – Family Sponsored (Migrant) Visa (Subclass 176)
    Nominated Occupation : Developer Programmer (261312)
    02/28/2011 - ACS Finalized the Case (261312, PIM3, Group A)
    03/07/2011 - IELTS Result Received L- 6.5, R-7.0, W-6.0, S-7.0, Overall Band Score-6.5 (BC)
    03/13/2011 - Lodged Visa Application (Online)
    11/09/2011 - CO Allocation
    12/02/2011 - Medicals Finalised
    12/02/2011 - FINISH LINE!! (Visa Grant)
    03/23/2012 - My first day @Melbourne
    04/14/2012 - Started looking for a .Net Developer job
    06/04/2012 - And finally got one! :)

  • aldousnowaldousnow SydneyPosts: 494Member
    Bumili ng damit kapag tapos na yung season. Halimbawa ngayon spring season so lahat ng pang winter na damit e bagsak presyo.
    Ang sure ko lang e mas mura ang Aldis kesa sa Wollies and Coles. Pero mas kaunti ang variety ng item kesa sa 2 major grocery stores.

    Skilled – Family Sponsored (Migrant) Visa (Subclass 176)
    Nominated Occupation : Developer Programmer (261312)
    02/28/2011 - ACS Finalized the Case (261312, PIM3, Group A)
    03/07/2011 - IELTS Result Received L- 6.5, R-7.0, W-6.0, S-7.0, Overall Band Score-6.5 (BC)
    03/13/2011 - Lodged Visa Application (Online)
    11/09/2011 - CO Allocation
    12/02/2011 - Medicals Finalised
    12/02/2011 - FINISH LINE!! (Visa Grant)
    03/23/2012 - My first day @Melbourne
    04/14/2012 - Started looking for a .Net Developer job
    06/04/2012 - And finally got one! :)

  • aldousnowaldousnow SydneyPosts: 494Member
    Bumili ng damit kapag tapos na yung season. Halimbawa ngayon spring season so lahat ng pang winter na damit e bagsak presyo.
    Ang sure ko lang e mas mura ang Aldis kesa sa Wollies and Coles. Pero mas kaunti ang variety ng item kesa sa 2 major grocery stores.

    Skilled – Family Sponsored (Migrant) Visa (Subclass 176)
    Nominated Occupation : Developer Programmer (261312)
    02/28/2011 - ACS Finalized the Case (261312, PIM3, Group A)
    03/07/2011 - IELTS Result Received L- 6.5, R-7.0, W-6.0, S-7.0, Overall Band Score-6.5 (BC)
    03/13/2011 - Lodged Visa Application (Online)
    11/09/2011 - CO Allocation
    12/02/2011 - Medicals Finalised
    12/02/2011 - FINISH LINE!! (Visa Grant)
    03/23/2012 - My first day @Melbourne
    04/14/2012 - Started looking for a .Net Developer job
    06/04/2012 - And finally got one! :)

  • aldousnowaldousnow SydneyPosts: 494Member
    Bumili ng damit kapag tapos na yung season. Halimbawa ngayon spring season so lahat ng pang winter na damit e bagsak presyo.
    Ang sure ko lang e mas mura ang Aldis kesa sa Wollies and Coles. Pero mas kaunti ang variety ng item kesa sa 2 major grocery stores.

    Skilled – Family Sponsored (Migrant) Visa (Subclass 176)
    Nominated Occupation : Developer Programmer (261312)
    02/28/2011 - ACS Finalized the Case (261312, PIM3, Group A)
    03/07/2011 - IELTS Result Received L- 6.5, R-7.0, W-6.0, S-7.0, Overall Band Score-6.5 (BC)
    03/13/2011 - Lodged Visa Application (Online)
    11/09/2011 - CO Allocation
    12/02/2011 - Medicals Finalised
    12/02/2011 - FINISH LINE!! (Visa Grant)
    03/23/2012 - My first day @Melbourne
    04/14/2012 - Started looking for a .Net Developer job
    06/04/2012 - And finally got one! :)

  • aldousnowaldousnow SydneyPosts: 494Member
    Ay sorry. Ilang beses pala to na post. Error kasi sabi pag post ko kya inulit ulit ko. E nagpost naman pala. Padelete na lang @admin. Pasensya. Thanks.

    Skilled – Family Sponsored (Migrant) Visa (Subclass 176)
    Nominated Occupation : Developer Programmer (261312)
    02/28/2011 - ACS Finalized the Case (261312, PIM3, Group A)
    03/07/2011 - IELTS Result Received L- 6.5, R-7.0, W-6.0, S-7.0, Overall Band Score-6.5 (BC)
    03/13/2011 - Lodged Visa Application (Online)
    11/09/2011 - CO Allocation
    12/02/2011 - Medicals Finalised
    12/02/2011 - FINISH LINE!! (Visa Grant)
    03/23/2012 - My first day @Melbourne
    04/14/2012 - Started looking for a .Net Developer job
    06/04/2012 - And finally got one! :)

  • aldousnowaldousnow SydneyPosts: 494Member
    Ay sorry. Ilang beses pala to na post. Error kasi sabi pag post ko kya inulit ulit ko. E nagpost naman pala. Padelete na lang @admin. Pasensya. Thanks.

    Skilled – Family Sponsored (Migrant) Visa (Subclass 176)
    Nominated Occupation : Developer Programmer (261312)
    02/28/2011 - ACS Finalized the Case (261312, PIM3, Group A)
    03/07/2011 - IELTS Result Received L- 6.5, R-7.0, W-6.0, S-7.0, Overall Band Score-6.5 (BC)
    03/13/2011 - Lodged Visa Application (Online)
    11/09/2011 - CO Allocation
    12/02/2011 - Medicals Finalised
    12/02/2011 - FINISH LINE!! (Visa Grant)
    03/23/2012 - My first day @Melbourne
    04/14/2012 - Started looking for a .Net Developer job
    06/04/2012 - And finally got one! :)

  • tita_vechtita_vech MandaluyongPosts: 79Member
    Gift certificate o pera ang iregalo pag pasko,

    Ang ganda nang boxing day sale, so be practical lalo na kung family members din lang ang reregaluhan. Same is true sa lahat nang occasions na malapit sa mid-year sale.

    Iwas pa sa mahabang queue nang nagsosoli nang unwanted gifts sa shops. Actually, di naman lahat unwanted, pero sosoli nila then bibilhin ulit sa sale price.
  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon CityPosts: 2,616Member, Moderator
    This may sound stupid but I've heard this mentioned several times in other sites, pag nasa Northern or Southern most part ng Australia ka raw nakatira, always shake off your shoes/footwear before wearing them kasi mahilig daw magtago mga alakdan dun?

    Totoo ba to? hehe
  • tita_vechtita_vech MandaluyongPosts: 79Member
    @LokiJr - nag iingat din sa redback spider, lalo pa pag nasa outback and yung shoes iniiwan sa labas. Pero kahit sa city may redback, so nakasanayan na laging shake-off bago isuot ang shoes.
  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon CityPosts: 2,616Member, Moderator
    ginoogle ko pa talaga yung redback spider, nakakatakot!...yung maliit na gagamba nga sa banyo nakakatakot na yan pa hehehe
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